MĀ 150
Madhyamāgama 中阿含经
Chapter 12 梵志品
150. (一五〇)欝瘦歌逻经
Parallel to: MN 96
I have heard thus: | 我闻如是: |
At one time, the Buddha was dwelling in the Bamboo Grove, in the Kalandaka Park, in the city of Rājagṛha. | 一时,佛游王舍城,在竹林加兰哆园。 |
At that time, the Brāhman Udayana was strolling about in the middle of the day and went to where the Buddha was. They exchanged greetings and sat down to one side. He said, "Gautama! I wish to ask something. Please listen before I speak." | 尔时,欝瘦歌逻梵志中后彷徉,往诣佛所,共相问讯,却坐一面,白曰:「瞿昙!欲有所问,听乃敢陈。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Ask as you please." | 世尊告曰:「恣汝所问。」 |
The Brāhman Udayana then asked, "Gautama! The Brāhman establishes four kinds of service for the four castes, establishing service for the Brāhman, the Kṣatriya, the Vaiśya, and the Śūdra. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes service for the Brāhman, and the Brāhman should serve the Brāhman, and the Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, and Śūdra should also serve the Brāhman. Gautama! These four castes should serve the Brāhman. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes service for the Kṣatriya, and the Kṣatriya should serve the Kṣatriya, and the Vaiśya and Śūdra should also serve the Kṣatriya. Gautama! These three castes should serve the Kṣatriya. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes service for the Vaiśya, and the Vaiśya should serve the Vaiśya, and the Śūdra should also serve the Vaiśya. Gautama! These two castes should serve the Vaiśya. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes service for the Śūdra, and the Śūdra should serve the Śūdra. Who is more lowly and should be established to serve the Śūdra? Only the Śūdra serves the Śūdra." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志即便问曰:「瞿昙!梵志为四种姓施设四种奉事,为梵志施设奉事,为刹利、居士、工师施设奉事。瞿昙!梵志为梵志施设奉事,梵志应奉事梵志,刹利、居士、工师亦应奉事梵志。瞿昙!此四种姓应奉事梵志。瞿昙!梵志为刹利施设奉事,刹利应奉事刹利,居士、工师亦应奉事刹利。瞿昙!此三种姓应奉事刹利。瞿昙!梵志为居士施设奉事,居士应奉事居士,工师亦应奉事居士。瞿昙!此二种姓应奉事居士。瞿昙!梵志为工师施设奉事,工师应奉事工师,谁复下贱,应施设奉事工师,唯工师奉事工师。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brāhman! Do the Brāhman know for themselves that they establish four kinds of service for the four castes, establishing service for the Brāhman, the Kṣatriya, the Vaiśya, and the Śūdra?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!诸梵志颇自知为四种姓施设四种奉事,为梵志施设奉事,为刹利、居士、工师施设奉事耶?」 |
The Brāhman Udayana replied, "I do not know. Gautama! But the Brāhman themselves say this: 'In this world, among gods, demons, Brahmas, śramaṇas, and brāhmaṇas, from humans to gods, the Brāhman do not know for themselves that they establish four kinds of service for the four castes, establishing service for the Brāhman, the Kṣatriya, the Vaiśya, and the Śūdra.'" | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「不知也。瞿昙!但诸梵志自作是说,我于此世,天及魔、梵、沙门、梵志,从人至天,梵志不自知为四种姓施设四种奉事,为梵志施设奉事,为刹利、居士、工师施设奉事。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Brāhman! It is like someone forcefully giving meat to another, saying, 'Sir, eat this and give me the price.' Brāhman! Your explanation for the Brāhman is also like this. Why is that? The Brāhman do not know for themselves that they establish four kinds of service for the four castes, establishing service for the Brāhman, the Kṣatriya, the Vaiśya, and the Śūdra." | 世尊告曰:「梵志!犹如有人,强与他肉,而作是说:『士夫可食,当与我直。』梵志!汝为诸梵志说亦复如是。所以者何?梵志不自知为四种姓施设四种奉事,为梵志施设奉事,为刹利、居士、工师施设奉事。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brāhman! What is service? If there is service, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? If there is service, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!云何奉事?若有奉事,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?若有奉事,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?」 |
The Brāhman Uṣiṅga Kālāma replied, "Gautama! If I serve and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. If I serve and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!若我奉事,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。若我奉事,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Brāhman! If there are other Brāhmanas who are not foolish, not deluded, not inverted, with minds not inverted, free and independent, I will ask them: 'What do you think? If there is service, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? If there is service, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, is that service?' | 世尊告曰:「梵志!若更有梵志来,非愚非痴,亦非颠倒,心无颠倒,自由自在,我问彼梵志:『于意云何?若有奉事,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?若有奉事,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有如无胜者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有胜无如者,为是奉事耶?』 |
"Brāhman! Those Brāhmanas who are not foolish, not deluded, not inverted, with minds not inverted, free and independent, replied to me: 'Gautama! If I serve and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. If I serve and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, there is equality without superiority, I should not serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, there is superiority without equality, I should serve them.'" | 「梵志!彼梵志非愚非痴,亦非颠倒,心无颠倒,自由自在,答我曰:『瞿昙!若我奉事,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。若我奉事,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有如无胜者,我不应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,有胜无如者,我应奉事彼。』」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brāhman! What do you think? If there is service, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If there is service, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?若有奉事,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?若有奉事,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?」 |
The Uṣaṅgu Brāhman replied, "Gautama! If I serve and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. If I serve and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!若我奉事,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。若我奉事,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Brāhman! If there is another Brāhman who is not foolish, not deluded, not inverted, with an un-inverted mind, free and independent, I will ask that Brāhman, 'What do you think? If there is service, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If there is service, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, one loses faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? Brāhman! If one serves a Brāhman, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service? If one serves a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra, and because of that service, one increases faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, is that service?' | 世尊告曰:「梵志!若更有梵志来,非愚非痴,亦非颠倒,心无颠倒,自由自在,我问彼梵志:『于意云何?若有奉事,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?若有奉事,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?梵志!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,为是奉事耶?』 |
"Brāhman! That Brāhman who is not foolish, not deluded, not inverted, with an un-inverted mind, free and independent, also answers me like this: 'Gautama! If I serve and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. If I serve and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, I lose faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should not serve them. Gautama! If I serve a Brāhman and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them. If I serve a Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, or Śūdra and because of that service, I increase faith, morality, learning, wisdom, and insight, I should serve them.'" | 「梵志!彼梵志非愚非痴,亦非颠倒,心无颠倒,自由自在,亦如是答我曰:『瞿昙!若我奉事,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。若我奉事,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,失信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我不应奉事彼。瞿昙!若奉事梵志,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。奉事刹利、居士、工师,因奉事故,增益信、戒、博闻、庶几、智慧者,我应奉事彼。』」 |
The Uṣṭraka Brāhman said, "Gautama! The Brāhman establishes four kinds of wealth for the four castes, establishing wealth for the Brāhman, Kṣatriya, Vaiśya, and Śūdra. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes begging as wealth for the Brāhman. If the Brāhman despises begging, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. Just as a cowherd who cannot tend cows loses profit, so too, Gautama! The Brāhman establishes begging as wealth for the Brāhman. If the Brāhman despises begging, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. | 欝瘦歌逻梵志白曰:「瞿昙!梵志为四种姓施设四种自有财物,为梵志施设自有财物,为刹利、居士、工师施设自有财物。瞿昙!梵志为梵志施设自有财物者,瞿昙!梵志为梵志施设乞求自有财物,若梵志轻慢乞求者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。犹如放牛人不能看牛者,则便失利。如是,瞿昙!梵志为梵志施设乞求自有财物,若梵志轻慢乞求者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。 |
Gautama! The Brāhman establishes wealth for the Kṣatriya. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes bows and arrows as wealth for the Kṣatriya. If the Kṣatriya despises bows and arrows, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. Just as a cowherd who cannot tend cows loses profit, so too, Gautama! The Brāhman establishes bows and arrows as wealth for the Kṣatriya. If the Kṣatriya despises bows and arrows, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. | 「瞿昙!梵志为刹利施设自有财物者,瞿昙!梵志为刹利施设弓箭自有财物,若刹利轻慢弓箭者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。犹如放牛人不能看牛者,则便失利。如是,瞿昙!梵志为刹利施设弓箭自有财物,若刹利轻慢弓箭者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。 |
Gautama! The Brāhman establishes wealth for the Vaiśya. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes farming as wealth for the Vaiśya. If the Vaiśya despises farming, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. Just as a cowherd who cannot tend cows loses profit, so too, Gautama! The Brāhman establishes farming as wealth for the Vaiśya. If the Vaiśya despises farming, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. | 「瞿昙!梵志为居士施设自有财物者,瞿昙!梵志为居士施设田作自有财物,若居士轻慢田作者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。犹如放牛人不能看牛者,则便失利。如是,瞿昙!梵志为居士施设田作自有财物,若居士轻慢田作者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。 |
Gautama! The Brāhman establishes wealth for the Śūdra. Gautama! The Brāhman establishes hemp as wealth for the Śūdra. If the Śūdra despises hemp, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. Just as a cowherd who cannot tend cows loses profit, so too, Gautama! The Brāhman establishes hemp as wealth for the Śūdra. If the Śūdra despises hemp, he then despises wealth. Despising wealth, he then loses profit. | 「瞿昙!梵志为工师施设自有财物者,瞿昙!梵志为工师施设麻自有财物,若工师轻慢麻者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。犹如放牛人不能看牛者,则便失利。如是,瞿昙!梵志为工师施设麻自有财物,若工师轻慢麻者,则便轻慢自有财物,轻慢自有财物已,则便失利。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! Do the Brahmins know for themselves that they establish four kinds of wealth for the four classes, establishing wealth for the Brahmins, and establishing wealth for the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!诸梵志颇自知为四种姓施设四种自有财物,为梵志施设自有财物,为刹利、居士、工师施设自有财物耶?」 |
The Uṣṭraka Brāhman replied, "I do not know, Gautama! But the Brahmins say, 'In this world, including the gods, Māra, Brahmā, Śramaṇas, and Brahmins, from humans to gods, we do not know for ourselves that we establish four kinds of wealth for the four classes, establishing wealth for the Brahmins, and establishing wealth for the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras.'" | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「不知也。瞿昙!但诸梵志自说,我于此世,天及魔、梵、沙门、梵志,从人至天,不自知为四种姓施设四种自有财物,为梵志施设自有财物,为刹利、居士、工师施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Brahmin! It is like someone forcefully giving meat to another, saying, 'Sir, eat this and give me the price.' Brahmin! Your explanation for the Brahmins is also like this. Why is that? The Brahmins do not know for themselves that they establish four kinds of wealth for the four classes, establishing wealth for the Brahmins, and establishing wealth for the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras. Thus, Brahmin! I myself well understand and know the teachings, establishing for people the teachings of cessation, extinction, awakening, and the path, and establishing wealth for myself." | 世尊告曰:「梵志!犹如有人,强与他肉,而作是说:『士夫可食,当与我直。』梵志!汝为诸梵志说亦复如是。所以者何?梵志不自知为四种姓施设四种自有财物,为梵志施设自有财物,为刹利、居士、工师施设自有财物。如是,梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? Is there a Brahmin who is not attached, bound, touched, or obstructed by this space, but not so for the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?颇有梵志于此虚空不著、不缚、不触、不碍,刹利、居士、工师不然耶?」 |
The Uṣaṣka-gālava Brahmin replied, "Gautama! The Brahmin is not attached, bound, touched, or obstructed by this space, and so are the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!梵志于此虚空不著、不缚、不触、不碍,刹利、居士、工师亦然如是。」 |
"Brahmin! I myself well understand and know the various dharmas, and I establish for people the dharmas of cessation, extinction, awakening, and the path, and the dharmas of good destinies, and I establish my own wealth." | 「梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? Can there be a Brahmin who can practice loving-kindness, without attachment, without resentment, without anger, without disputes, while the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras cannot?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?颇有梵志能行慈心,无结、无怨、无恚、无诤,刹利、居士、工师不然耶?」 |
The Udraka Rāmaputra Brahmin replied, "Gautama! Brahmins can practice loving-kindness, without attachment, without resentment, without anger, without disputes, and so can the Kṣatriyas, Vaiśyas, and Śūdras." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!梵志能行慈心,无结、无怨、无恚、无诤,刹利、居士、工师亦然如是。」 |
"Brahmin! I myself well understand and know all dharmas, and I establish for people the dharmas of cessation, extinction, awakening, and the path, and I establish my own wealth." | 「梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? If a hundred people come, and one of them says to them, 'Come together! Only those born in the Kṣatriya and Brahmin castes can take soap to the water and bathe, removing dirt and becoming extremely pure.' Brahmin! What do you think? Can only those in the Kṣatriya and Brahmin castes take soap to the water and bathe, removing dirt and becoming extremely pure? Can those in the Vaiśya and Śūdra castes not take soap to the water and bathe, removing dirt and becoming extremely pure? Can all one hundred people take soap to the water and bathe, removing dirt and becoming extremely pure?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?若百种人来,或有一人而语彼曰:『汝等共来!若有生刹利族、梵志族者,唯彼能持澡豆至水洗浴,去垢极净。』梵志!于意云何?为刹利族、梵志族者,彼能持澡豆至水洗浴,去垢极净耶?为居士族、工师族者,彼不能持澡豆至水] cf.[丽】洗浴,去垢极净耶?为一切百种人皆能持澡豆至水洗浴,去垢极净耶?」 |
The Uṣaṣka-gālava Brahmin replied, "Gautama! All one hundred people can take soap to the water and bathe, removing dirt and becoming extremely pure." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!彼一切百种人皆能持澡豆至水洗浴,去垢极净。」 |
"So it is, Brahmin! I myself well understand and know the teachings, and I establish for people the teachings of cessation, the teachings of extinction, the teachings of the path of awakening, the teachings of the good destinies, and I establish my own wealth." | 「如是。梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? If one hundred people come, and one person says to them, 'Come together! Only those born in the kṣatriya and brahmin castes can use extremely dry sāla and sandalwood wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it.' Brahmin! What do you think? Can those in the kṣatriya and brahmin castes use extremely dry sāla and sandalwood wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it? Can those in the householder and artisan castes use dry pig and dog troughs, iḍa wood, and other inferior wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it? Can all one hundred people use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?若百种人来,或有一人而语彼曰:『汝等共来!若生刹利族、梵志族者,唯彼能以极燥娑罗及栴檀木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养。』梵志!于意云何?为刹利族、梵志族者,彼能以极燥娑罗及栴檀木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养耶?为居士族、工师族者,彼当以燥猪狗槽、伊兰檀木及余弊木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养耶?为一切百种人皆能以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养耶?」 |
The Uṣṭraka brahmin replied, "Gautama! All one hundred people can use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!彼一切百种人皆能以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养。」 |
"So it is, brahmin! I myself well understand and know the teachings, and I establish for people the teachings of cessation, the teachings of extinction, the teachings of the path of awakening, and the teachings of the good destinies, and I establish my own wealth." | 「如是。梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? If those one hundred people all use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it, do all those fires have smoke, color, heat, and light, and can they all perform the functions of fire? Is it that only one of those fires has smoke, color, heat, and light, and can perform the functions of fire? Or is it that none of those fires have smoke, color, heat, and light, and cannot perform the functions of fire? Or is it that all those fires have smoke, color, heat, and light, and can perform the functions of fire?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?若彼百种人皆以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养,彼一切火皆有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,皆能作火事,为彼火独有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,能作火事耶?为彼火独无[火*佥]、无色、无热、无光,不能作火事耶?为彼一切火皆有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,皆能作火事耶?」 |
The Uṣṭraka Brāhmaṇa replied, "Gautama! If those one hundred people all use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it, then all those fires have smoke, color, heat, and light, and can perform the functions of fire. If it is that only one of those fires has smoke, color, heat, and light, and can perform the functions of fire, then that is impossible. If it is that none of those fires have smoke, color, heat, and light, and cannot perform the functions of fire, that is also impossible. But, Gautama! Those one hundred fires all have smoke, color, heat, and light, and can perform the functions of fire." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!若百种人皆以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养者,彼一切火皆有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,皆能作火事。若彼火独有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,能为火事者,终无是处。若彼火独无[火*佥]、无色、无热、无光,不能为火事者,亦无是处。但,瞿昙!彼一切火皆有[火*佥]、有色、有热、有光,皆能作火事。」 |
"So it is, Brahmin! I myself well understand and know the teachings, and I establish for people the teachings of cessation, extinction, the path of awakening, and the teachings of the good destinies, and I establish my own wealth." | 「如是。梵志!我自善解、善知诸法,为人施设息止法、灭讫法、觉道法、善趣法,施设自有财物。」 |
The World-Honored One asked, "Brahmin! What do you think? If those one hundred people all use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it, then if someone puts dry grass and wood into that fire, producing smoke, color, heat, and flames, are there differences in the smoke, color, heat, and flames?" | 世尊问曰:「梵志!于意云何?若彼百种人皆以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养,彼或有人以燥草木著其火中,生[火*佥]、生色、生热、生烟,颇有[火*佥]、色、热、烟,[火*佥]、色、热烟而差别耶?」 |
The Ucchedavāda Brahmin replied, "Gautama! If those one hundred people all use various kinds of wood as kindling, and by drilling, produce fire and nurture it, then if someone puts dry grass and wood into that fire, producing smoke, color, heat, and flames, I cannot establish any differences in the smoke, color, heat, and flames of that fire." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志答曰:「瞿昙!若彼百种人皆以若干种木用作火母,以钻钻之,生火长养,彼若有人以燥草木著其火中,生[火*佥]、生色、生热、生烟,我于彼火[火*佥]、色、热、烟,[火*佥]、色、热、烟,不能施设有差别也。」 |
The World-Honored One said, "Brahmin! In this way, I have attained fire and attained non-distraction, which can extinguish distraction and arrogance. I cannot establish any differences in the fire." | 世尊告曰:「梵志!如是我所得火,所得不放逸,能灭放逸及贡高慢,我于此火,火亦不能施设有差别也。」 |
The Ucchedavāda Brahmin said, "World-Honored One! I have understood. Well-Gone One! I have understood. World-Honored One! I now take refuge in the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha. I only wish the World-Honored One would accept me as a lay follower, from this day forth until life's end, taking refuge with utmost sincerity." | 欝瘦歌逻梵志白曰:「世尊!我已知。善逝!我已解。世尊!我今自归于佛、法及比丘众,唯愿世尊受我为优婆塞,从今日始,终身自归,乃至命尽。」 |
The Buddha spoke thus. The Ucchedavāda Brahmin, having heard the Buddha's words, joyfully received and practiced them. | 佛说如是。欝瘦歌逻梵志闻佛所说,欢喜奉行。 |
Translated from Chinese using Gemma-2-Mitra (Buddhist-NLP).
This is the classical Chinese root text of Madhyamāgama, a parallel to the Pali sutta(s) listed above. Source: CBETA (Taishō edition).
