SN22:37 Ānanda (1)
- DG BB TBW © Translated from the Pali by Bhikkhu Bodhi. (More copyright information)
1At Sāvatthī. Then the Venerable Ānanda approached the Blessed One … . The Blessed One then said to the Venerable Ānanda as he was sitting to one side:
2"If, Ānanda, they were to ask you: ‘Friend Ānanda, what are the things of which an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned?’—being asked thus, how would you answer?" [n.50] Uppāda, vaya, ṭhitassa aññathattaṃ. At AN I 152,6–10 these are called the three conditioned characteristics of the conditioned (tīṇi saṅkhatassa saṅkhatalakkhaṇāni). The commentaries identify them with the three sub-moments in the momentary life span of a dhamma: arising (uppāda), persistence or presence (ṭhiti), and dissolution (bhaṅga). (For more on this, see CMA 4:6.) Spk explains ṭhitassa aññathatta as the aging (or decay) of the persisting living entity (dharamānassa jīvamānassa jarā), namely, of the life faculty. The commentator mentions the opinion held by some teachers that it is not possible to posit a moment of decay in the case of the mental phenomena (feeling, etc.) (Spk-pṭ: because of the extreme brevity of the moment, decay being quickly overtaken by dissolution), but he rejects this view on the basis of the sutta itself. Spk-pṭ proposes a logical argument for the sub-moment of presence: "Just as a stage of dissolution distinct from the stage of arising is admitted, for otherwise it would follow that an entity dissolves in the very act of arising, so we must admit, as distinct from the stage of dissolution, a stage when an entity ‘confronts its own dissolution’ (bhaṅgābhimukhāvatthā); for something cannot break up unless it has confronted its own dissolution." sn.iii.38
"Venerable sir, if they were to ask me this, I would answer thus: ‘Friends, with form an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned. With feeling … perception … volitional formations … consciousness an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned. These, friends, are the things of which an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned.’ Being asked thus, venerable sir, I would answer in such a way."
3"Good, good, Ānanda! With form, Ānanda, an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned. With feeling … perception … volitional formations … consciousness an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned. These, Ānanda, are the things of which an arising is discerned, a vanishing is discerned, an alteration of that which stands is discerned. Being asked thus, Ānanda, you should answer in such a way."
1Sāvatthinidānaṁ. Atha kho āyasmā ānando … pe … ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho āyasmantaṁ Ānandaṁ bhagavā etadavoca:
2"Sace taṁ, Ānanda, evaṁ puccheyyuṁ: ‘katamesaṁ, āvuso Ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti? Evaṁ puṭṭho tvaṁ, Ānanda, kinti byākareyyāsī"ti?
"Sace maṁ, bhante, evaṁ puccheyyuṁ: ‘katamesaṁ, āvuso Ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti? Evaṁ puṭṭhohaṁ, bhante, evaṁ byākareyyaṁ: ‘rūpassa kho, āvuso, uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Vedanāya … saññāya … saṅkhārānaṁ … viññāṇassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Imesaṁ kho, āvuso, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti. Evaṁ puṭṭhohaṁ, bhante, evaṁ byākareyyan"ti.
3"Sādhu sādhu, Ānanda. Rūpassa kho, Ānanda, uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Vedanāya … saññāya … saṅkhārānaṁ … viññāṇassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Imesaṁ kho, Ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatīti. Evaṁ puṭṭho tvaṁ, Ānanda, evaṁ byākareyyāsī"ti.
Pañcamaṁ.
