SN22:150 Internally
- DG BB TBW © Translated from the Pali by Bhikkhu Bodhi. (More copyright information)
1At Sāvatthī. "Bhikkhus, when what exists, by clinging to what, do pleasure and pain arise internally?" [n.230] Spk glosses kiṁ upādāya with kiṁ paṭicca, but a word play is probably involved; see n. 146. The double sense would then be that pleasure and pain arise because one clings to the five aggregates with desire and lust, and they arise in dependence on the five aggregates as their support and object. sn.iii.181
"Venerable sir, our teachings are rooted in the Blessed One … ."
"When there is form, bhikkhus, by clinging to form, pleasure and pain arise internally. When there is feeling … perception … volitional formations … consciousness, by clinging to consciousness, pleasure and pain arise internally.
"What do you think, bhikkhus, is form permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, venerable sir."
"Is what is impermanent suffering or happiness?"
"Suffering, venerable sir."
"But without clinging to what is impermanent, suffering, and subject to change, could pleasure and pain arise internally?"
"No, venerable sir."
"Is feeling … perception … volitional formations … consciousness permanent or impermanent?
… But without clinging to what is impermanent, suffering, and subject to change, could pleasure and pain arise internally?"
"No, venerable sir."
"Seeing thus … He understands: ‘ … there is no more for this state of being.’"
1Sāvatthinidānaṁ. "Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya uppajjati ajjhattaṁ sukhadukkhan"ti?
Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā
… pe … "rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati rūpaṁ upādāya uppajjati ajjhattaṁ sukhadukkhaṁ. Vedanāya sati … pe … saññāya sati … saṅkhāresu sati … viññāṇe sati viññāṇaṁ upādāya uppajjati ajjhattaṁ sukhadukkhaṁ.
Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave, rūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā"ti?
"Aniccaṁ, bhante".
"Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vā"ti?
"Dukkhaṁ, bhante".
"Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya uppajjeyya ajjhattaṁ sukhadukkhan"ti?
"No hetaṁ, bhante".
"Vedanā … pe … saññā … saṅkhārā … viññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā"ti?
"Aniccaṁ, bhante".
"Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vā"ti?
"Dukkhaṁ, bhante".
"Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya uppajjeyya ajjhattaṁ sukhadukkhan"ti?
"No hetaṁ, bhante".
"Evaṁ passaṁ … pe … nāparaṁ itthattāyāti pajānātī"ti.
Paṭhamaṁ.