“Itohaṁ, bho, āgacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa santikā”ti. “I’m coming, my good man, from the presence of the ascetic Gotama.” “Taṁ kiṁ maññati bhavaṁ piṅgiyānī samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ? Paṇḍito maññe”ti? “What do you think of the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Do you think he’s astute?” “Ko cāhaṁ, bho, ko ca samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jānissāmi. “My good man, who am I to judge the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Sopi nūnassa tādisova yo samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jāneyyā”ti. You’d really have to be on the same level to judge his lucidity of wisdom.”
“ajja sīhena senāpatinā thūlaṁ pasuṁ vadhitvā samaṇassa gotamassa bhattaṁ kataṁ. “Today General Sīha has slaughtered a fat calf for the ascetic Gotama’s meal. ‘ajja sīhena senāpatinā thūlaṁ pasuṁ vadhitvā samaṇassa gotamassa bhattaṁ kataṁ. ‘Today General Sīha has slaughtered a fat calf for the ascetic Gotama’s meal.
Ayaṁ anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati ārāmaṁ āgacchati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako. The householder Anāthapiṇḍika, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming into our monastery. Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā sāvatthiyaṁ paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati. He is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing in Sāvatthī. “Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi; “Well then, since it seems you don’t know all the views of the ascetic Gotama, “Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi napi bhikkhūnaṁ sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi; “Well then, since it seems you don’t know all the views of the ascetic Gotama or of the mendicants,
Ayaṁ vajjiyamāhito gahapati āgacchati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako. The householder Vajjiyamāhita, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming into our monastery. Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā campāyaṁ paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro vajjiyamāhito gahapati. He is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing near Campā. “āgamehi tvaṁ, gahapati, yassa tvaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa vaṇṇaṁ bhāsati, samaṇo gotamo venayiko appaññattiko”ti? “Hold on, householder! That ascetic Gotama who you praise is an exterminator who refrains from making statements.”
Sace bhavaṁ soṇadaṇḍo samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ dassanāya upasaṅkamissati, bhoto soṇadaṇḍassa yaso hāyissati, samaṇassa gotamassa yaso abhivaḍḍhissati. For if you do so, your reputation will diminish and his will increase. Yampi bhoto soṇadaṇḍassa yaso hāyissati, samaṇassa gotamassa yaso abhivaḍḍhissati, imināpaṅgena na arahati bhavaṁ soṇadaṇḍo samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ dassanāya upasaṅkamituṁ; For this reason it’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama; Samaṇo khalu, bho, gotamo saṅghī gaṇī gaṇācariyo puthutitthakarānaṁ aggamakkhāyati. Yathā kho pana, bho, etesaṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ yathā vā tathā vā yaso samudāgacchati, na hevaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa yaso samudāgato. He leads an order and a community, and teaches a community, and is said to be the best of the various religious founders. He didn’t come by his fame in the same ways as those other ascetics and brahmins. Atha kho anuttarāya vijjācaraṇasampadāya samaṇassa gotamassa yaso samudāgato …pe… Rather, he came by his fame due to his supreme knowledge and conduct. … “yathā kho bhavaṁ soṇadaṇḍo samaṇassa gotamassa vaṇṇe bhāsati ito cepi so bhavaṁ gotamo yojanasate viharati, alameva saddhena kulaputtena dassanāya upasaṅkamituṁ api puṭosenā”ti. “According to Soṇadaṇḍa’s praises, if Master Gotama were staying within a hundred leagues, it’d be worthwhile for a faithful gentleman to go to see him, even if he had to carry his own provisions in a shoulder bag.” ‘bālo soṇadaṇḍo brāhmaṇo abyatto, nāsakkhi samaṇassa gotamassa pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādhetun’ti. ‘Soṇadaṇḍa is foolish and incompetent. He’s not able to satisfy the ascetic Gotama’s mind with his answer.’ ‘bālo soṇadaṇḍo brāhmaṇo abyatto, nāsakkhi samaṇassa gotamassa pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādhetun’ti. dn4
Sace bhavaṁ kūṭadanto samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ dassanāya upasaṅkamissati, bhoto kūṭadantassa yaso hāyissati, samaṇassa gotamassa yaso abhivaḍḍhissati. For if you do so, your reputation will diminish and his will increase. Yampi bhoto kūṭadantassa yaso hāyissati, samaṇassa gotamassa yaso abhivaḍḍhissati, imināpaṅgena na arahati bhavaṁ kūṭadanto samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ dassanāya upasaṅkamituṁ. For this reason it’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama; Samaṇo khalu, bho, gotamo saṅghī gaṇī gaṇācariyo puthutitthakarānaṁ aggamakkhāyati, yathā kho pana, bho, etesaṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ yathā vā tathā vā yaso samudāgacchati, na hevaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa yaso samudāgato. He leads an order and a community, and teaches a community, and is said to be the best of the various religious founders. He didn’t come by his fame in the same ways as those other ascetics and brahmins. Atha kho anuttarāya vijjācaraṇasampadāya samaṇassa gotamassa yaso samudāgato …pe… Rather, he came by his fame due to his supreme knowledge and conduct. … “yathā kho bhavaṁ kūṭadanto samaṇassa gotamassa vaṇṇe bhāsati, ito cepi so bhavaṁ gotamo yojanasate viharati, alameva saddhena kulaputtena dassanāya upasaṅkamituṁ api puṭosenā”ti. “According to Kūṭadanta’s praises, if Master Gotama were staying within a hundred leagues, it’d be worthwhile for a faithful gentleman to go to see him, even if he had to carry his own provisions in a shoulder bag.” “kasmā pana bhavaṁ kūṭadanto samaṇassa gotamassa subhāsitaṁ subhāsitato nābbhanumodatī”ti? “How can you not applaud the ascetic Gotama’s fine words?” “Nāhaṁ, bho, samaṇassa gotamassa subhāsitaṁ subhāsitato nābbhanumodāmi. “It’s not that I don’t applaud what he said. Muddhāpi tassa vipateyya, yo samaṇassa gotamassa subhāsitaṁ subhāsitato nābbhanumodeyya. If anyone didn’t applaud such fine words, their head would explode!
Na kho pana mayaṁ kiñci samaṇassa gotamassa ekaṁsikaṁ dhammaṁ desitaṁ ājānāma: We understand that the ascetic Gotama didn’t give any definitive teaching at all regarding whether the cosmos is eternal and so on.” “ahampi kho, bho, na kiñci samaṇassa gotamassa ekaṁsikaṁ dhammaṁ desitaṁ ājānāmi: “I too understand that the ascetic Gotama didn’t give any definitive teaching at all regarding whether the cosmos is eternal and so on. Bhūtaṁ kho pana tacchaṁ tathaṁ paṭipadaṁ paññapentassa dhammaṭṭhitataṁ dhammaniyāmataṁ, kathañhi nāma mādiso viññū samaṇassa gotamassa subhāsitaṁ subhāsitato nābbhanumodeyyā”ti? So how could a sensible person such as I not agree that what was well spoken by the ascetic Gotama was in fact well spoken?” Na kho pana mayaṁ kiñci samaṇassa gotamassa ekaṁsikaṁ dhammaṁ desitaṁ ājānāma:
“ehi tvaṁ, samma rosike, yena samaṇo gotamo tenupasaṅkama; upasaṅkamitvā samaṇassa gotamassa kālaṁ ārocehi— “Here, dear Rosika, go to the ascetic Gotama and announce the time, saying:
“ajja kira rattiyā pacchime yāme samaṇassa gotamassa parinibbānaṁ bhavissatī”ti. on that very day, in the last watch of the night, the ascetic Gotama would become fully extinguished. Ajjeva rattiyā pacchime yāme samaṇassa gotamassa parinibbānaṁ bhavissati. And this very day, in the last watch of the night, the ascetic Gotama will become fully extinguished. Ajjeva rattiyā pacchime yāme samaṇassa gotamassa parinibbānaṁ bhavissati. And this very day, in the last watch of the night, the ascetic Gotama will become fully extinguished. Ajjeva rattiyā pacchime yāme samaṇassa gotamassa parinibbānaṁ bhavissati.
“samaṇo khalu bho kumārakassapo samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako kosalesu cārikaṁ caramāno mahatā bhikkhusaṅghena saddhiṁ pañcamattehi bhikkhusatehi setabyaṁ anuppatto setabyāyaṁ viharati uttarena setabyaṁ siṁsapāvane. “It seems the ascetic Kassapa the Prince—a disciple of the ascetic Gotama—is staying in the grove of Indian Rosewood to the north of Setavyā. “Atthi kho, bho, samaṇo kumārakassapo, samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako kosalesu cārikaṁ caramāno mahatā bhikkhusaṅghena saddhiṁ pañcamattehi bhikkhusatehi setabyaṁ anuppatto setabyāyaṁ viharati uttarena setabyaṁ siṁsapāvane. “The ascetic Kassapa the Prince—a disciple of the ascetic Gotama—is staying in the grove of Indian Rosewood to the north of Setavyā.
Ayaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako āgacchati sandhāno gahapati. The householder Sandhāna, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming. Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā rājagahe paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro sandhāno gahapati. He is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing near Rājagaha. Suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya. Staying in empty huts has destroyed the ascetic Gotama’s wisdom. Not frequenting assemblies, he is unable to hold a discussion. Evameva suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā; dn25 “acchariyaṁ vata bho, abbhutaṁ vata bho, samaṇassa gotamassa mahiddhikatā mahānubhāvatā, yatra hi nāma sakavādaṁ ṭhapessati, paravādena pavāressatī”ti. “Oh, how incredible, how amazing! The ascetic Gotama has such power and might! For he sets aside his own doctrine and invites discussion on the doctrine of others!” suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā, aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya, so antamantāneva sevati; Staying in empty huts has destroyed the ascetic Gotama’s wisdom. Not frequenting assemblies, he is unable to hold a discussion. He just lurks on the periphery. Evameva suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā, aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya; so antamantāneva sevati; dn25
“natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso. “The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones. uttari → uttariṁ (pts1ed) “natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso. mn12 ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso. mn12 ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso; ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones. ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso, takkapariyāhataṁ samaṇo gotamo dhammaṁ deseti vīmaṁsānucaritaṁ sayampaṭibhānan’ti, ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones …’ ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso, takkapariyāhataṁ samaṇo gotamo dhammaṁ deseti vīmaṁsānucaritaṁ sayampaṭibhānan’ti, ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones …’ ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso, takkapariyāhataṁ samaṇo gotamo dhammaṁ deseti vīmaṁsānucaritaṁ sayampaṭibhānan’ti, ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones …’ ‘natthi samaṇassa gotamassa uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanaviseso; ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones.
“Ito hi kho ahaṁ, bho, āgacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa santikā”ti. “Just now, good sir, I’ve come from the presence of the ascetic Gotama.” “Taṁ kiṁ maññati bhavaṁ vacchāyano samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ paṇḍito maññe”ti. “What do you think of the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Do you think he’s astute?” “Ko cāhaṁ, bho, ko ca samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jānissāmi. “My good man, who am I to judge the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Sopi nūnassa tādisova yo samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jāneyyā”ti. You’d really have to be on the same level to judge his lucidity of wisdom.”
“kathaṁ pana, bho assaji, samaṇo gotamo sāvake vineti, kathaṁbhāgā ca pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakesu anusāsanī bahulā pavattatī”ti? “Master Assaji, how does the ascetic Gotama guide his disciples? And on what topics does instruction to his disciples generally proceed?” “kiṁ samaṇo gotamo saccakassa nigaṇṭhaputtassa vādaṁ āropessati, atha kho saccako nigaṇṭhaputto samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropessatī”ti? “How can the ascetic Gotama refute Saccaka’s doctrine, when it is Saccaka who will refute Gotama’s doctrine?”
‘antaradhāyissāmi samaṇassa gotamassa, antaradhāyissāmi samaṇassa gotamassā’ti nevassu me sakkoti antaradhāyituṁ. ‘I will vanish from the ascetic Gotama! I will vanish from the ascetic Gotama!’ But he was unable to vanish from me. Samaṇassa gotamassa mahiddhikatā mahānubhāvatā, na ca vata no ito pubbe diṭṭho vā, suto vā, añño samaṇo vā brāhmaṇo vā evaṁ mahiddhiko evaṁ mahānubhāvo yathāyaṁ samaṇo gotamo sakyaputto sakyakulā pabbajito. The ascetic Gotama has such psychic power and might! We’ve never before seen or heard of any other ascetic or brahmin with psychic power and might like the ascetic Gotama, who has gone forth from the Sakyan clan.
“Ito hi kho ahaṁ, bhante, āgacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa santikā”ti. “Just now, sir, I’ve come from the presence of the ascetic Gotama.” Yathā taṁ sutavatā sāvakena sammadeva satthusāsanaṁ ājānantena evameva dīghatapassinā nigaṇṭhena samaṇassa gotamassa byākataṁ. Dīgha Tapassī has answered the ascetic Gotama like a learned disciple who rightly understands their teacher’s instructions. Yathā taṁ sutavatā sāvakena sammadeva satthusāsanaṁ ājānantena evamevaṁ bhadantena tapassinā samaṇassa gotamassa byākataṁ. The Honorable Tapassī has answered the ascetic Gotama like a learned disciple who rightly understands their teacher’s instructions. Handa cāhaṁ, bhante, gacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa imasmiṁ kathāvatthusmiṁ vādaṁ āropessāmi. I’d better go and refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine regarding this point. Handa cāhaṁ, bhante, gacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa imasmiṁ kathāvatthusmiṁ vādaṁ āropessāmī”ti. Sir, I’d better go and refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine on this point.” “Gaccha tvaṁ, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa imasmiṁ kathāvatthusmiṁ vādaṁ āropehi. “Go, householder, refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine on this point. Ahaṁ vā hi, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyyaṁ, dīghatapassī vā nigaṇṭho, tvaṁ vā”ti. For either I should do so, or Dīgha Tapassī, or you.” “na kho metaṁ, bhante, ruccati yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyya. “Sir, I don’t believe it’s a good idea for the householder Upāli to rebut the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine. “Aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, tapassi, anavakāso yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagaccheyya. “It is impossible, Tapassī, it cannot happen that Upāli could become Gotama’s disciple. Gaccha tvaṁ, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa imasmiṁ kathāvatthusmiṁ vādaṁ āropehi. Go, householder, refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine on this point. Ahaṁ vā hi, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyyaṁ, dīghatapassī vā nigaṇṭho, tvaṁ vā”ti. For either I should do so, or Dīgha Tapassī, or you.” “na kho metaṁ, bhante, ruccati yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyya. “Sir, I don’t believe it’s a good idea for the householder Upāli to rebut the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine. “Aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, tapassi, anavakāso yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagaccheyya. “It is impossible, Tapassī, it cannot happen that Upāli could become Gotama’s disciple. Gaccha tvaṁ, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa imasmiṁ kathāvatthusmiṁ vādaṁ āropehi. Go, householder, refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine on this point. Ahaṁ vā hi, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyyaṁ, dīghatapassī vā nigaṇṭho, tvaṁ vā”ti. For either I should do so, or Dīgha Tapassī, or you.” Ajjatagge upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato. From now on the householder Upāli has become a disciple of the ascetic Gotama. “upāli kira gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato”ti. Upāli had become a disciple of the ascetic Gotama. “sutaṁ metaṁ, bhante, upāli kira gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato”ti. “Sir, they say that the householder Upāli has become a disciple of the ascetic Gotama.” “Aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, tapassi, anavakāso yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagaccheyya. “It is impossible, Tapassī, it cannot happen that Upāli could become Gotama’s disciple. “Handāhaṁ, bhante, gacchāmi yāva jānāmi yadi vā upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato yadi vā no”ti. “Well, sir, I’d better go and find out whether or not Upāli has become Gotama’s disciple.” “Gaccha tvaṁ, tapassi, jānāhi yadi vā upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato yadi vā no”ti. “Go, Tapassī, and find out whether or not Upāli has become Gotama’s disciple.” Ajjatagge upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato. From now on the householder Upāli has become a disciple of the ascetic Gotama. “saccaṁyeva kho, bhante, yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato. “Sir, it’s really true that Upāli has become Gotama’s disciple. Etaṁ kho te ahaṁ, bhante, nālatthaṁ, na kho me, bhante, ruccati yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropeyya. Sir, I couldn’t get you to accept that it wasn’t a good idea for the householder Upāli to rebut the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine. “Aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, tapassi, anavakāso yaṁ upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagaccheyya. “It is impossible, Tapassī, it cannot happen that Upāli could become Gotama’s disciple. “Handa cāhaṁ, tapassi, gacchāmi yāva cāhaṁ sāmaṁyeva jānāmi yadi vā upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato yadi vā no”ti. Well, Tapassī, I’d better go and find out for myself whether or not Upāli has become Gotama’s disciple.” Ajjatagge upāli gahapati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakattaṁ upagato. From now on the householder Upāli has become a disciple of the ascetic Gotama. ‘Gacchāmahaṁ, bhante, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropessāmī’ti gantvā mahatāsi vādasaṅghāṭena paṭimukko āgato. You said: ‘I’ll go and refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine.’ But you come back caught in the vast net of his doctrine. evameva kho tvaṁ, gahapati, ‘gacchāmahaṁ, bhante, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropessāmī’ti gantvā mahatāsi vādasaṅghāṭena paṭimukko āgato. In the same way, you said: ‘I’ll go and refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine.’ But you come back caught in the vast net of his doctrine. “Kadā saññūḷhā pana te, gahapati, ime samaṇassa gotamassa vaṇṇā”ti? “But when did you compose these praises of the ascetic Gotama’s beautiful qualities, householder?”
bhaddāli nāma bhikkhu samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako theraññataro bhikkhu sāsane sikkhāya aparipūrakārī’ti. as the mendicant named Bhaddāli, one of the senior disciples of Gotama, who doesn’t fulfill the training according to the Teacher’s instructions.’
ayaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako āgacchati samaṇo ānando. The ascetic Ānanda, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming. Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā kosambiyaṁ paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro samaṇo ānando. He is included among the disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing near Kosambī.
Tatraññataro samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako ukkāsi. Then one of his disciples cleared their throat. Yasmiṁ samaye samaṇo gotamo anekasatāya parisāya dhammaṁ deseti, neva tasmiṁ samaye samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakānaṁ khipitasaddo vā hoti ukkāsitasaddo vā. While the ascetic Gotama is teaching an assembly of many hundreds, there is no sound of his disciples coughing or clearing their throats. Evameva yasmiṁ samaye samaṇo gotamo anekasatāya parisāya dhammaṁ deseti, neva tasmiṁ samaye samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakānaṁ khipitasaddo vā hoti ukkāsitasaddo vā. In the same way, while the ascetic Gotama is teaching an assembly of many hundreds, there is no sound of his disciples coughing or clearing their throats. Yepi samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā sabrahmacārīhi sampayojetvā sikkhaṁ paccakkhāya hīnāyāvattanti tepi satthu ceva vaṇṇavādino honti, dhammassa ca vaṇṇavādino honti, saṅghassa ca vaṇṇavādino honti, attagarahinoyeva honti anaññagarahino, “mayamevamhā alakkhikā mayaṁ appapuññā te mayaṁ evaṁ svākkhāte dhammavinaye pabbajitvā nāsakkhimhā yāvajīvaṁ paripuṇṇaṁ parisuddhaṁ brahmacariyaṁ caritun”ti. Even when a disciple of the ascetic Gotama resigns the training and returns to a lesser life, having been overly attached to their spiritual companions, they speak only praise of the teacher, the teaching, and the Saṅgha. They blame only themselves, not others: “We were unlucky, we had little merit. For even after going forth in such a well explained teaching and training we weren’t able to practice for life the perfectly full and pure spiritual life.”
ayaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako āgacchati pañcakaṅgo thapati. Here comes Pañcakaṅga, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama. Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā sāvatthiyaṁ paṭivasanti ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro pañcakaṅgo thapati. He is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing in Sāvatthī.
“Ito hi kho ahaṁ, bho, āgacchāmi samaṇassa gotamassa santikā”ti. “Just now, good sir, I’ve come from the presence of the ascetic Gotama.” “Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, bhavaṁ bhāradvājo samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ paṇḍito maññeti”? “What do you think of the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Do you think he’s astute?” “Ko cāhaṁ, bho, ko ca samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jānissāmi? “My good man, who am I to judge the ascetic Gotama’s lucidity of wisdom? Sopi nūnassa tādisova yo samaṇassa gotamassa paññāveyyattiyaṁ jāneyyā”ti. You’d really have to be on the same level to judge his lucidity of wisdom.”
“sammukhā metaṁ, āvuso samiddhi, samaṇassa gotamassa sutaṁ, sammukhā paṭiggahitaṁ: “Reverend Samiddhi, I have heard and learned this in the presence of the ascetic Gotama:
“bhāradvājagotto kira brāhmaṇo samaṇassa gotamassa santike agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajito”ti kupito anattamano yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ asabbhāhi pharusāhi vācāhi akkosati paribhāsati. Evaṁ vutte, bhagavā akkosakabhāradvājaṁ brāhmaṇaṁ etadavoca: a brahmin of the Bhāradvāja clan had gone forth from the lay life to homelessness in the presence of the ascetic Gotama. Angry and displeased he went to the Buddha and abused and insulted him with rude, harsh words. When he had spoken, the Buddha said to him:
“bhāradvājagotto brāhmaṇo kira samaṇassa gotamassa santike agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajito”ti kupito anattamano yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ asabbhāhi pharusāhi vācāhi akkosati paribhāsati. a brahmin of the Bhāradvāja clan had gone forth from the lay life to homelessness in the presence of the ascetic Gotama. Angry and displeased he went to the Buddha and abused and insulted him with rude, harsh words.
“bhāradvājagotto kira brāhmaṇo samaṇassa gotamassa santike agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajito”ti kupito anattamano yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā tuṇhībhūto ekamantaṁ aṭṭhāsi. a brahmin of the Bhāradvāja clan had gone forth from the lay life to homelessness in the presence of the ascetic Gotama. Angry and displeased he went to the Buddha and stood silently to one side.
Kathaṁ byākaramānā ca mayaṁ vuttavādino ceva samaṇassa gotamassa assāma, na ca samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ abhūtena abbhācikkheyyāma, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākareyyāma, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānupāto gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgaccheyyā”ti? How should we answer so as to repeat what the ascetic Gotama has said, and not misrepresent him with an untruth? How should we explain in line with his teaching, with no legitimate grounds for rebuke and criticism?”
“ehi tvaṁ, gāmaṇi, samaṇassa gotamassa vādaṁ āropehi. “Come, chief, refute the ascetic Gotama’s doctrine. ‘asibandhakaputtena gāmaṇinā samaṇassa gotamassa evaṁmahiddhikassa evaṁmahānubhāvassa vādo āropito’”ti. ‘Asibandhaka’s son the chief refuted the doctrine of the ascetic Gotama, so mighty and powerful!’” “Kathaṁ panāhaṁ, bhante, samaṇassa gotamassa evaṁmahiddhikassa evaṁmahānubhāvassa vādaṁ āropessāmī”ti? “But sir, how am I to do this?”
Ko pana, bho moggallāna, hetu ko paccayo, yena samaṇassa gotamassa evaṁ puṭṭhassa na evaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ hoti— And what’s the reason why, when the ascetic Gotama is asked these questions, he does not declare one of these to be true?”